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“Our Incel Problem”

Posted by Abigail Banton on

Throughout the reading there are different things that tend to come up often, sort of like the main idea of the article. Two of the trends that the author mentioned were the ages and the gender in the group. Before the change in  reasoning for this group, there were woman and men who talked and gave advice about dating. It was more of a safe space for questions to be asked and advice to be given. According to the article, after the change in the groups motives, the age range was from 16-30 and the gender of the group consists of mainly men. Woman were no longer allowed in the group because now they were the target. Another major trend that runs throughout the group is the fact that the men are not able to keep a girlfriend or get a date in the first place. They blame women for not being able to be socially and sexually acceptable in society. The members of the community are men who are down and out. They decide to take their anger out on woman because they feel less than or felt less than in the past and can’t handle it. It’s honestly a big pity party in my book but with more aggression and stupidity. In the end, the author shows how the group was one thing in the beginning and led to a whole other community solely off of toxic masculinity. Communities grow and expand in many different ways but this ones foundation was completely changed and thrown off course.

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Incel Reading Response # 2

Posted by Iqra Jan on

Incel short for  “involuntary celibacy” is a group that formed into a community. The author discusses this group of noting the members all having the specific pattern of facing rejection in their lives from women. The members of this community, majority male range from the ages of 16-30 sharing their hardships from things like bullying, autism, anxiety, and unacceptance from others that have caused these men to feel unvalued and unattractive. These men are introverted and turn to the internet to seek refuge from their isolation and rejection. 

The author provides a context of the origins of Incel showing the insider experience through the altering of this community. This once small group that began from a shy lonely teenager evolved in two decades after the death of Sohe Chung beginning a trend of violence and hate towards women. This open-minded support group for those are lacking in dating and sex had degenerated into a place where praise for hate, mass killers, and ideas of this like rape has become normalized. 

The incels have this inside idea of “sexist ideology” which is a belief known as “black pill” having disrespect towards women labeling them as shallow, cruel creatures who will choose only the most attractive men. This tells us that the rejection these men have faced from women has caused them to blame women for their problems. From this community, we see constant loneliness these men feel has evolved into rage towards women. In this community, they all share the same feelings of misfortunes but don’t work in any way to empower or find a more positive outlook. 

The author’s analysis of this community relates to a wider context as he talks in the end about how all people can relate to members of Incel’s feelings of rejection and loneliness but this community takes their common misfortunes and has turned into misogynistic rage towards a gender. 

 

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Reading Response #3

Posted by Thais Nunez on

I read the essay #Sullie. It was a very powerful essay describing how powerful words can be and the fact they can be able to take away a person’s life. The author had a great set up throughout the essay and the way she portrayed the message she wanted to deliver. I want to give the essay a total of 86%. The author did clarify all that she wanted to say in a clear format and the way she described how the artist had lived her life. I would have wanted to see more quotes on the people who were really close to her and describe her experience about the hate on a more personal level. I really like how she even incorporated quotes about how Sullie felt and how she wanted people to stop judging her because she only wanted to progress in life, but unfortunately things did not go her way. Overall, the author did a really great job in organizing her thoughts and details.

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Reading Response #2

Posted by David Ayala on

Involuntary celibacy, otherwise known as “incels” are people who have very severe romantic troubles. In the excerpt from the article the author interviews various people from the incel community and notes various patterns amongst them all. The majority of incels are males, aging anywhere under 30. They all share this hate for women because of their romantic troubles. They believe these troubles are womens fault, who choose to only seek material things in men. So long as their loneliness continues, they will continue to hate women. Many of these men have their very own issues, and joined together in this community they share their horrid experiences with women and relationships. As a whole, a lot of incels have a lack of confidence. This is something that some have always had due to their very own personal flaws that they see within themselves. Others believe their confidence was destroyed due to their experiences with women. This keeps them down, where they just continue to build all of the hate and anger toward women. In a wider spectrum incels represent the age-old misogyny that has existed all throughout history. Women have been subject to prejudice, much of which has been perpetuated by men.  Men who project their hate on to women because of their very own issues and seek to destroy women and degrade them. As technology has advanced incels just found a medium to form communities where they share this hate.

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Reading Response #2

Posted by Angel Pacheco on

The author Zack Beauchamp goes into great detail describing the demographic that the incel community is composed of. What I find interesting is that many of the people in the incel community are not monsters that commit acts of violence (although of course there are very much examples of that) but rather lonely, young, and frustated men. It is very sad to see these young men begin their journey down a very dark path. I think the incel community breeds an attitude of hopelessness, and hatred, but again these men aren’t all villains, they just have very small (if any) support networks and thus these incel communities are the only place where they can find some sort of social support. Unfortunately, seeking these communities out as support networks instills the bad mentalities onto these young men and thus the misogynistic attitudes are spread.

Besides that though, I think that the patterns shown here help to enhance our understanding of the insider experience  in many ways. The author helps us learn just what kind of people are in this incel community and I think it is good that they actually interview some members of this community so we can get a better understanding of them. As stated above, the demographic is primarily frustrated, lonely, young men who seem to want validation of how they feel, they seem to want to find others who are like them, and who have gone through what they have.

The authors analysis of this community shows how the misogynistic attitudes can spread through these communities and why these young men in particular are so vulnerable to adopting these particular misogynistic mindsets that the incel community has.

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“Our Incel Problem” Zach Beauchamp

Posted by Sharon Leal on

Incel is short for involuntary celibates, a name for those who lack romance and intimacy in their lives. The author notes a lot of interesting things about these members, such as describing them as awkward in real life, specifically with sex and dating. Not only that, they describe it as a “social justice warrior community.” A trend that followed after the death of Sohe Chung was calling for the disrespect of women and to encourage attacks on them, blaming them for their lack of sexual intimacy. What started off as an online forum for advice on how to approach women became a safe place to bash women and call for violent attacks. These patterns and trends inform the insider experience because it shows a progression of how a group went from mild to extreme after an incident opened up the stream of negativity. A trend I noticed while reading this is that it begins with loneliness and possibly being left emotionally fragile by a woman. This tells us that these men might be a bit unstable and insecure because they all claim that attractiveness is the root of all problems with women. In a wider context, this all seems to relate to insecurity which can lead people to look for help over the internet rather than with a therapist. While they might find comfort in a community consisting of people with similar issues, one can not fix another person’s problems or provide help if they have the same unsolved issue. As the author stated at the end, everyone shares rejection, some until  adulthood, but not everyone finds comfort and similar opinions about blaming women for the lack of confidence and sex in ones life which Beauchamp relates to misogynistic rage. While these men might need a range of support, love, and intimacy, it is not a woman’s job to give it to them nor is it a given right for men.

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Reading Response #2

Posted by Elena Bertolotti on

Some specific trends the author notes about the members of the incel community is that somewhere in their life they have had some form of rejection from life and women. Many share that they had been bullied when they were younger or have qualities about themselves that are not valued in our current culture or not deemed attractive. Some shared their disabilities such as autism and having extreme anxiety which can lead to being introverted and avoiding social situations. All the members of the incel communities are young men aged sixteen to thirty.

The patterns that inform the insider experience in this community is the constant loneliness and rejection that these men have experienced which later develops into rage against women which eventually becomes hatred. What that tells me at least about the members of the community is that they don’t want to empower their members to be confident (which will get them women guaranteed), they want them angry, sad, to feel sorry for themselves and blame a whole gender on their misfortunes in life. The members of the community need an outlet to express their rage and sorrow. Instead of turning their misfortunes into a positive thing and discovering a healthy outlet. The incel community wants to stay and melt in their insecurities, which in my opinion will never help them with women instead push them away. It’s like their doomed from the start, just bringing their pain deeper into their subconsciousness. When people experience trauma it’s a very delicate situation. A good way to combat trauma is support from other people who have experienced the same thing. To also combat it you need to accept it to move on to better yourself. Using rage as a way to deal with your problems just gets you into more problems. Your moving from a place of hurt that needs to be addressed.

I really liked how Beauchamp balanced factual evidence and personal stories of people of the incel community. I think the analysis of this community relates to a lot of things we experience in this world such as sexism and misogyny. It tears women down. It’s an outlet to openly hate women due to their lack of understanding and hatred of themselves. It moves in a circle once you get hurt you move your hurt onto someone else. And that just keeps repeating until you break it.  I was disgusted to read that this community was twisted into hating women and actually killing innocent people. But I hate to say that it didn’t surprise me.

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Reading Response #2

Posted by Asadullah Bin Amir on

Asadullah Bin Amir 

Prof. Shamecca Harris 

04/06/20 

English 

Reading Response #2 

The excerpt from “Our Incel Problem” by Zack Beauchamp captures an online community by the name of Incel. At the beginning of the launch of this community it was set to bring people together who were awkward in the subject of dating or life in general. Incel became a platform for individuals to express their problems and to find comfort in advice given from strangers. However, it was soon almost unrecognizable when an incident involving two people. When Two college students were injured, and one ended up dying while about 26 other people were injured. It was later found that the driver was a part of the modern Incel community. The modern Incel community is mainly made up of males, and became very sexist over the few years. The community was unrecognizable from its origin, where the community was very welcoming and open – minded but now existed as a very close minded community full of hatred. The author then moves on to describe how he discovered said online community and describes it as a very hostile place where men have been bashing females for being shallow creatures. As shown in this quote, “ amounting to fundamental rejections of women’s sexual emancipation, labeling women shallow, cruel creatures who will choose only the most attractive men if given the choice”. Due to these patterns and trends, it is quite obvious that Incel as a community is very hostile and dangerous towards women.

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Reading Response #2

Posted by JingWen Lei on

By reading an excerpt from “Our Incel Problem” by Zack Beauchamp, he describes an incel (involuntary celibacy) community. In the past two decades, most of the Incel community has been affected by the community’s thinking and knowledge. A belief called “the blackpill” arises in this community, which is a sense of sexism. They mark women as a very low-level superficial creature, thinking that women will only choose excellent or attractive men. However, this belief is nothing but the dark side of their hearts, causing them to gradually separate from society.

The psychology of these patterns or trends informs the insider is relatively easily influenced by the behavior of others. As in the article, Abe suffered a bad emotional experience when he was young, the trauma in his heart transferred his emotions to the Internet. There are many young boys with similar experiences in the incel community, so when they get together, they will express their dissatisfaction. According to a survey of some users, most of these incels are under 30 years old and live in Europe or North America. The main attractor of this site is white. Their prejudice against women is the main issue discussed in this community. The incel ideology can easily push young people to extremes, and some terrorist attacks caused by incel have occurred in Toronto. In this community, they had many ideas of harming women and pushed the mistakes to women’s perspective. Gradually incel became a hate group that encouraged violence.

The author tells us about this group because it is not just a group that shares words. The existence of this community has already affected society. When we understand the mood and feelings of insiders, we can know what type of crowd they gather from. There is no doubt that we need to prevent their ideological violence from becoming behavioral violence.

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Reading Response # 2

Posted by Olivia Davila on

“Our Incel Problem” by Zach Beauchamp is about an online community called Incel. At first, this community brought people together who were awkward when it came to dating or just life in general. It became a space for members to communicate their problems and frustrations when it comes to romance.  In its earlier days, the incel community was most focused on advice and advice-giving becoming friendly and welcoming but the author soon notes the big change in the online community a decade later. However, it was soon almost unrecognizable when an incident involving two people. Two college students were injured; one ended up dying while about 26 other people were injured. It was later found that the driver was apart of the modern Incel community. The author explains how the Incel community is now mostly made up of men and is now very sexist. It is apparent the transition from being an open-minded community being welcoming and friendly to becoming closed-minded and full of hatred. The author talks about how he discovered this new form of the online community and describes it as “ amounting to fundamental rejections of women’s sexual emancipation, labeling women shallow, cruel creatures who will choose only the most attractive men if given the choice” while blaming women because they have lack of romance in their life. There is an obvious trend of hostility in this new form of the community and how it is made up of men instead of previously being made up of both men and women. The patterns and trends of this online community inform the insider experience that this community is now very hostile a dangerous towards women. Not only does it show their hatred towards women, but also the insecurities they have and cant deal within a proper way. This connects to the bigger picture in which the behaviors of the incel community can be dangerous in real life and is becoming a problem not only online but in real life.

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